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Anony Says:
December 7th, 2006 at 5:06 pmGo back and read the DeCSS decisions which stated flat out that knowingly linking to material in violation of the DMCA for the purpose of disseminating it was itself a violation of the DMCA. It’s a little bit different here because it’s a copyright violation and not an anticircumvention violation, but the logic will probably stand. You’ll have to get Congress or the Supreme Court to change its mind if you’re looking for a different outcome.
wont happen Says:
December 7th, 2006 at 5:52 pmIf this happens then (your favorite search engine) is/will get sued aswell.
neo Says:
December 7th, 2006 at 6:16 pmSearch engines are served with DMCA notices to remove search results which link to copyrighted material every day.
I wouldn’t assume anything as far as legality these days – the ongoing assault and disregard of the constitution / bill of rights moves on with more and more police state legislation being passed which favors those who pay off the influence peddlers. We’re even going to lose our right to free speech – Newt is all over the press calling for it and the “hate laws” about to be passed will end any voice which dissents.
me Says:
December 7th, 2006 at 6:37 pmOn this topic, if you are in the US, is it even legal to watch TV shows which come from sites like these?
peter Says:
December 7th, 2006 at 6:47 pmFox doesn’t have the authority to make you sell anything, a court does. So you should tell Fox to go fuck themselves pretty much and continue doing whatever the hell you please.
Randall Says:
December 7th, 2006 at 6:55 pmit’s one of those things you have to weigh out, for sure. I think even if there’s a case (which I don’t think there is) the fact is the person is linking to copyrighted material, and since someone else owns the material and it’s being pirated, ethically it’s wrong, at least. I don’t think we’re in a deeplinking/link policy debate here, since that was all sort of settled in the late 90’s, so for me, no big deal.
not fair Says:
December 7th, 2006 at 8:04 pmIt is not fair FOX is taken such unfair action upon Quicksilverscreen. If FOX is going to do this, they should sued the first person who allow the show to appear on the internet. The resource where he got it from is even there all along. I feel bad for Steve, the owner of Quicksilverscreen, as I believe he must have put a lot of work and risk on this work. Watching such tv shows on Quicksilverscreen is just like watching it on tv. It isn’t selling or making any profit off of it, so why should it shut down? This is just isn’t fair.
Messed Up Online TV Show Logic Says:
December 7th, 2006 at 10:00 pmThat is just redicioulous, it’s horrible PR for fox. I hate to see what they would to do sites http://www.freetube.us.tc that actually broadcast the Fox station itself. But seriously, they should let these sites remain as they are – it helps promote their shows and I wouldn’t have known about some of their shows (like the really obscure ones) if I hadn’t first seen them on the internet. I have Fox/NBC etc but I only really started watch some of the programs after watching it online for the first time, and then now I watch a lot of their shows.
So it actually helps them. They’re such greedy bastards.
pete Says:
December 8th, 2006 at 12:12 amWell then Google and any other search engine that referenced the said videos would also be held liable if such a law prohibited it.
Let’s see if FOX has the balls to go after the big dogs.
Rob Says:
December 8th, 2006 at 12:58 amThis is a form of contributor infringement check out Wikipedia’s take on this as it relates to content on thier site -
jonelle Says:
December 8th, 2006 at 11:13 amlinking does not itself involve a violation of the Copyright Act….since no copying is involved.” The basis for this conclusion can be seen from the statutory language of the Copyright Act, Title 17 section 106 of the United States Code… http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/106.html
So I am in agreement with pete, and not fair. I think they are bullying Steve because it is alot more simple to take out the little guy than to persue the actual offenders.
A friend recently asked me where he might find a bag, I myself do not use drugs but told him of a place that might have some… I didnt realize that was illegal.Does this mean that I could go to jail for referring someone to a source?
steven Says:
December 8th, 2006 at 11:18 pmone thing is sure is that even if quicksilverscreen is dowm there will be other sites not based USA copyright laws…fox are jews…wise words
John Doe Says:
December 9th, 2006 at 1:21 amThe solution is simple. Partner up with a random user overseas where the laws are a little more lax and WALLAH!
weeteevee Says:
December 9th, 2006 at 3:09 pmAs a site owner of a simlar site I have a vested interest in this. I think theres an easily solution to this. Ban people from making this content available.
Here’s an interesting problem for them…am I breaking the law by showing you how to use google to search for family guy avis on google? I’d love to see them try.
-inurl:htm -inurl:html intitle:”index of” “Last modified” avi “family guy”
Arya Says:
December 9th, 2006 at 3:53 pmTruth is, you stop one and 10 others pop up. Stopping QSS means nothing but a poor guy losing 8 years of work, but in essence, those 8 years changed how shows/videos have gotten to the masses.
Hollywood Says:
December 11th, 2006 at 5:27 amTo Steve, should he ever read this, I want to thank you. And FOX owes you thanks, as I was hooked on many shows I watched first on ur website. I am truly considering boycotting FOX for this outrageous behavior. Your site was a pleasure.
My question for the large tv/sales/marketing conglomerates is have they justly weighed the outcome of their actions? That the site can just as easily exist in another country (as it does so you can go “frack” urself FOX…haha jokes on you), is it worth the harassment and bad PR to prey upon the little guy?! I don’t think so…
I have a comment to Google (via YouTube) too though. I certainly hope you don’t fall susceptible to these allegations; fight them to the end. How I would respect Google and NEVER use another search engine if they make FOX et al. look like jackasses for this!!!
hawkins1417 Says:
December 20th, 2006 at 1:53 pmIf you check the copyright by-laws. There is no way for someone to actually copy these files. They are a link that you need to be connected to the net in order to get. Thus, it is not really considered file sharing. I believe FOX is making a huge mistake. As a person already wrote, they got to know / see some of the shows on here they have not watched before. I know I can not afford to buy or rent full seasons of shows like 24 and Family Guy. I just got into 24 last season and with 4 season to watch previously I thought this is great. If you rent the money does not go to fox it goes to the video store chain. I thought this was a great idea. I still do. I say fight the fight.
josh Says:
January 14th, 2007 at 3:57 pmfor the past week now when i go on quicksilverscreen it comes up with some website about movinq your website abroad does anyone else have this problem???
Shiur torah Says:
February 8th, 2007 at 11:25 amJewish clips is also a site that hosts content from youtube. But it contains jewish clips and shiurim so none of the content is copyrighted.
noneed4aname Says:
May 28th, 2007 at 5:53 amSo, im a little confused, if the site is hosted from a different country, this will all be legal? Cause im happy to open a site if he still has all the backup files
blah 40000 Says:
June 24th, 2007 at 8:51 pmthe main thing that is wrong with this is that fox is public broadcasting aka free tv. unless fox loses profit/funding because of this site wich i use quite often they have no legal reason for this lawsuit. and if they get away with it who’s next to sue this “steve”? whyy for red dwarf? unless its payperveiw they have no right for this legal act.
Chris Tew Says:
June 25th, 2007 at 2:54 amThat’s not true Blah. Fox pays for and owns the content. If they choose to make money from it by offering it free with adverts or by paid subscription that is their choice.
If someone steals it by hosting it on their site (e.g YouTube) then Fox has the right to make them take it down. YouTube also has the right (under current DMCA laws) to be asked to take it down first before being sued because they can’t be expected to know what every member of their community is up to.
The question here is does Fox have the right to tell QuickSilverScreen to remove the links to he pirate videos on YouTube. Is it not YouTube’s responsibility? Or is is QuickSilverScreen contributing to the copyright infringment?
This would all be solved if Fox simply put more TV shows online which were free and supported by minimal adverts, which were well targeted to the audience.
MARK Says:
June 25th, 2007 at 3:47 amWHAT YOU SEE ON THE INTERNET IS NOT FREE YOU HAVE TO PAY TO GET INTERNET,PAY FOR MY COMPUTER SYSTEM,I ALSO SHOP ONLINE,THERE IS NO FREE IN THIS WORLD SO TELL FOX OR WHO EVER ELSE TO SHUT UP!
Taint Says:
July 7th, 2007 at 12:09 pmummm… QSS is still alive and well with over 100k members!
Chris Tew Says:
July 8th, 2007 at 4:11 amTaint:
If you look when this article was written it was over 6 months ago. The owner of QSS had to give the site away to someone in Malaysia to avoid any lawsuits which is why QSS is still here today.
taint Says:
July 18th, 2007 at 10:58 amChris Tew:
I do know this… I’ve been a member and mod on qss for a while. I was being sarcastic in the fact that qss is still the largest community of linking pirates and fox cant do much about it.
I personally believe in the mind frame that there should be no “rich” people and people like good ol’ Rupert make me sick… the mofo is buying the Dow Jones?
ahhh long live qss.com
atif khan Says:
August 6th, 2007 at 5:41 pmcopying is bad
akmununrama Says:
August 6th, 2007 at 8:33 pmDO NOT LET THESE CLUELESS SUITS SCARE YOU PEOPLE…THEY ARE JUST PISSED BECAUSE THEY ARE LOOSING MONEY. THE TRUTH “IS” THAT THE INTERNET IS JUST LIKE INTERNATIONAL WATERS WHEN IT COMES TO COPYRIGHT LAWS. THEY DON’T APPLY. AS A MATTER OF FACT CONGRESS IN THE U.S. HAS PAYED LITTLE OR NO ATTENTION TO THE STILL EVOLVING WEB. THERE IS A REASON THEY CALL US PIRATES. BECAUSE IN HERE…….. THEY HAVE NO JURISDICTION. AS LONG AS WE DON’T SELL THE MATERIAL OR PROFIT FROM IT……THERE IS NO LAW ON EARTH THAT SAYS “I CAN’T LET A FRIEND WATCH ONE OF MY MOVIES”. ……. SO RELAX PEOPLE, AND TELL THOSE UPTIGHT A**HOLES TO VISIT http://WWW.READAFUCKINGBOOK.COM ! P.S. THAT IS A REAL WEBSITE.
cluelessguy Says:
August 6th, 2007 at 9:26 pmQuicksilverscreen isnt working all of the sudden, does anyone know of anything similar that I can use? I have no cable and am bored as shit.
insanemonkey Says:
August 13th, 2007 at 8:15 pmwell, I have to say, That qssif it is shut down there will be another site, and video hosting sites can not control what they put on becuase people will find ways to put it on there or there will be another video hosting site, but as fox does this it is making them a bad reputation and as soon as they hit sumthing big, people will start taking action, as of i think alot of fox films are starting to suck bad, and pluz if they think this is going to help movie theatres, there wrong, as of now movie theatres are down right expensive just to see a movie, a movie here in arizona cost about 10$ just to see a movie, rediculous, well the movie theatres can suck my big twinki. we should start sending emails to fox and spam them see how they like it….
I Says:
November 15th, 2007 at 11:42 pmPeople can’t dictate others’ actions. It’s obvious that Fox think they are some sort of dictatorship.
Left blank Says:
November 19th, 2007 at 6:40 amYou know what fox just because you have your own channel doesnt mean you can go online and try to destroy the sites that arte good so that people will run to you your not god over the internet if that is the way you feel about thiis site then do me a favor go after limewire, emule, bearshare and every search engine online because they have the same thing this site has Leave this dude allone all hes doing is trying to give us something to watch when were dored.
matthew Says:
December 1st, 2007 at 5:54 amif it’s wrong to watch shows for free then it also has to be wrong to record shows on the airwaves but then that would also mean that the big companys that make these machines wrong also!
HackerZ3RO Says:
December 17th, 2007 at 3:58 amFUCK FOX .. they should fucking sue youtube those fucking fags bags .. they sucks and make me fucking sick .. they fuckin have grown fuckin men crying on youtube and little fagsbags crying over britney .. fuck that site
Chrislove Says:
December 17th, 2007 at 1:07 pmThese big conglomorates are all about profit. We make them money by buying their products but they wont let us share amongst ourselves. We cant share our movies because supposedley we profit from that and they dont.. why wont fox sue China.. they make the most bootlegs on earth and ship it to the U.S.. Fox is targeting the small guys, what are you scared of Fox? One way we can fuck with them the way fox is fuckin with us, is to stop using Myspace. There should be a law the limits you to havin no control on Media outlets. fuck you everytime you breath fox.
chrislove Says:
December 17th, 2007 at 1:09 pmWe’re all behind you Steve..
Fox Should Die In A Fire Says:
December 23rd, 2007 at 5:39 amSimply put the owner of this site got screwed. Albeit not as badly as the owner of tv-links.co.uk who was actually jailed in the UK. Providing a link is just that, showing someone where to go. If someone stops you on the street and asks where the bank is and you tell them and then they rob the bank are you responsible for their actions? Not to mention that FOX shoots themselves in the foot with this. Word of mouth is so much more now than it used to be… the net spreads things like wild fire and honestly FOX, we dont need you. Think about Metallica and how many faithful fans they lost after the napster debacle… I dont debate that artists have a right to their property but I do think that you need to go after those who are actually guilty of something, not those who give out road maps….
Kpart Says:
December 23rd, 2007 at 3:03 pmWell i would like to say that fox is just a bunch of rich stuck up men. All they care about is money i have read through these posts ANd i am proud to say that i used quicksilver screen many of times. There is no way that fox should do this. They provide free t.v U buy rabbit ears go to channel 21 (were i live.) SO i don’t see what the big deal is. I say we should boycott fox and spam it through the web. He did not violate any copy rite laws I think. And if he hasn’t the law system will proval. TO whoever created quicksilver screen i hope ur hard work hasn’t gone to waste because of rich people just trying to be bastards.
bfb Says:
December 26th, 2007 at 10:50 pmhttp://tvshack.net/ is good to watch movies and tv shows online
free stream Says:
January 2nd, 2008 at 10:15 amcheck out this great search engine for free streaming online
http://www.fnuz.com
find free streaming movies, animes, cartoons, series, tv shows..
http://www.fnuz.com
zzz Says:
January 2nd, 2008 at 8:30 pmtalk to the pirate bay crew to take over your site to the Sweden.
TheLillGuy Says:
February 13th, 2008 at 1:39 amThe reality is Fox have to much time on their hand. That is precisely why they are doing this shit. I agree with the person who said why don’t they go after China? That is where they are really losing money. Watching old T.V shows is nostalgic; it made me went out to buy a complete DVD series. Fox is to thick minded to see a benefit. It is just another example of corporate oppression. Boycote Fox people, Long live freedom of the internet.
STaeLTH Says:
February 16th, 2008 at 9:17 pmWell I do agree with the majority of the statements added to this site I have a great word of wisdom that perhaps FOX didn’t take the time to think about.
“GOOD or BAD advertising it is all Advertising IN THE END” – BY ME!.
One thing that fox has not caught onto yet is the fact that all the advertising towards sending this site to the dumps has Merely Only made it more Popular. Now people are interested in seeing what the whole fuss is all about! and good on them as this site truly is a work of art!. GOOD JOB Steve and u have support.
Reaper Says:
February 18th, 2008 at 6:17 amI cant log on to the site.Did FOX(fools On X) actually manage to shut it down???
TL Says:
February 18th, 2008 at 8:29 amThis was a blast from the past for me and my family,with lots of old movies from my childhood.Its a shame that fox was so threatened by individual viewing that they had to use legal mumbo,jumbo to shut down,in my opinion,a virtual pioneer in public free access viewing.What ever it is worth Steve you did a good job.
pirate jack Says:
February 18th, 2008 at 9:11 amfuck fox greedy fuckers they should be grateful most of there stuff is fucking crap anyway
pirate jack Says:
February 18th, 2008 at 9:14 amAnd a bunch of cunts! at least one day they are all going to die no matter how much money and power they amass. Big CUNT to you Lachlan Murdoch and your close to death bastard aussie father.
dennisthemenace Says:
February 18th, 2008 at 11:39 amWhat a load of jizz, greedy fuckers !
Weasel88 Says:
February 18th, 2008 at 2:02 pmWell. It seems to have finally happened. If it’s the greedy jewish bastards from FOX or not, the time has come, I can’t log-on. Fuck that propaganda box called the TV. And all that shit that is put there to control the public. To entertain. Every time I turn it on some pig is trying to sell me somethiing. I weigh my own options and make my own decisions. The internet is a tool that I use to do that. I’m throwing my TV in the trash today, and going fishing. Fuck it.
fiuyfu Says:
February 18th, 2008 at 7:09 pmwell……fuckers shut it down..
survivor Says:
February 18th, 2008 at 8:03 pmI’m devistated in finding the site was no longer running on one of my regular visits. It really is a great shame and exellent work Steve.
For fucks sake Fox!?! The bored greedy twats really did have too much fucking time on their hands and I’m sure Steve’s site didn’t pose that much of a threat to their “precious” organization!
I dont normally curse which really shows how annoyed I am at this…….
KNOBJOCKING CUNTS!
QSS er Says:
February 19th, 2008 at 8:19 pmThe site is not down! QSS lives! Please come back, dont give up on QSS! It lives!
jimmy Says:
March 10th, 2008 at 10:04 amhey this thing is dated 2006!!! ppl are stupid :-/
UncB Says:
March 14th, 2008 at 4:14 pmQSS Rocks!! The best site on the net
Michaelangeloh Says:
March 22nd, 2008 at 8:08 pmIve ran across the silverscreen site and upon entering had gotten attacked 5 times in a row by the helkern worm , a very nasty fast acting virus.Luckily my anti virus program kicked in and aborted entry.If you want to visit site do so at your own risks to your P.C.
mass-de Says:
April 1st, 2008 at 9:47 amjust tryed it, there are no virus’es whatsoever, excellent site!
silverfishuk Says:
May 8th, 2008 at 6:55 amive been accessin qss for nearly a year………. best site about for tv and movies.
looks like malaysia just got all foxy too.
hope qss comes back soon
miss ya baby
Mark Todd Says:
May 9th, 2008 at 2:35 pmIt was a great site but when stage6 died it lost a lot of its quality still it will be missed.
qss taken down by again. Says:
May 16th, 2008 at 10:41 pmAs you may or may not know Qss was recently accused of copyright violations AGAIN. im happy to report however that it is of no consequence, the site will continue to prosper regardless of the findings of the malaysian justice system. Should the site be forced to shut down it will simpely be reopened in another country, while FOX and others spend another 3-4 years building a case according to said country’s justice system. GLHF.
lendura Says:
May 29th, 2008 at 11:23 amI hope steve will carry on and QSS will sufrace again soon
türkiye rehberi Says:
June 26th, 2008 at 7:46 amI won’t be siding with the TV companies when they threaten sites like QuickSilverScreen.
xy Says:
June 28th, 2008 at 12:52 pmInteresting report. But if the writer had some insight, he/she woulf know that crappy “youtube” does host an absoulte minority of material.
You should inform yourself about veoh.com or todou.
Besides I strongly support QSS and the idea of free media.
John Mills-Wallbridge Says:
September 5th, 2008 at 5:55 amI have lived thru several revolutions Elvis,The Beatles,Anti War,Anti-nuke,the new millenium and,ever since I played “Civilization’ on an Amiga 500,The Internet . This,boys,is big.Like the 60s – when “Love is all you need” (that’s STILL all you need!),we need to step up – fight,hack – do whatever it takes to ensure the future is safe for those who are taught to share – both themselves and their “favourite things”,and to prosecute those who would take a person’s creation – and sell it! to you and we were not aware that by buying a piece of plastic,or vinyl containing music,video,etc, would – {after paying $20-$40, under the usual terms of sale, (you buy it,you own it!)learn that (with penalties greater than incurred by injuring or killing humans)you have NO rights of any kind regarding ownership-so,if we are all only RENTING this media,then,the “book is overdue ‘ ,so why not send back all scratched etc,media and demand replacements – to,maybe,Sony!(Who indeed design and market the means to copy-photo,record, then take you to court!)} and you thought that when you bought an LP,or cd,that it was YOURS! Silly!
Rise Up,I Say!
John Mills-Wallbridge Says:
September 5th, 2008 at 6:02 amViva! QSS !- Viva Steve! -Viva Hackers!(Who keep the Bastards honest!)
Misty Says:
September 9th, 2008 at 10:24 amAsk yourselves this question? How many movie downloading sites are there? Are the BIG BOYS of Hollywood going to be out numbered by the questionable movie downloading sites?
I think most of us can guess at the answers for the two questions above… The amount of movie downloading sites clearly may reach way beyond the scope of the MPAA. Unless the MPAA hires John Connor from the Terminator to use some Skynet tactics! Possible? Ummmm….
We can go to sites that have legal content like Cinemanow, MovieDownloadMatrix, Movielink and Netflix….
But most people can not afford to do that…therefore alternatives always catch the masses…on the other hand I can understand the importance of sharing…Even before the internet…did any of use take a video we bought over to a friends house to watch… sure we did! Live on QSS!!!
Theres my 2 cents!
Chloe Says:
February 23rd, 2009 at 11:42 amYOU FAT CAT BULLIES.
HOW DARE YOU FORCE CHARGE ON EVRY MOTHER FUCKER THAT YOU COME ACROSS.
HAVENT YOU GOT ENOUGH MONEY YOU GREEDY GREEDY GREEDY CUNTS.
QUICKSILVERSCREEN WAS ONE OF MY FAVEORITE WEBSITES!
THEY WERE A FREINDLY AND SAFE COMMUNITY, HELPING LESS PRIVILEGED PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF WHO DONT HAVE TV’S WATCH THEIR FAVEORITE PROGRAMMES.
IM ENGLISH, I DONT WATCH FOX ANYWAY, I WOULDNT IF I WAS IN AMERICA, HOW DARE YOU HAVE THE CHEEK TO DO THIS YOU ARSEHOLES. IF I EVER GET A CLEAR SHOT AT YOUR HEAD WITH A SNIPER RIFLE ILL FUCKING SHOOT YOU YOU GREEDY GREEDY GREEDY CUNTISH GASH MUNCHING FUCK MONSTERS!
Leah Lopez Says:
February 24th, 2009 at 10:48 amUntil the owners of movie theatres quite raising the price of movie tickets, I hope sites like this stay in circulation. It is unfair that for even a small sized faily to see a movie it is a small fortune. Why is this anyway? To pay actors salaries?? Seriously? I am really curious as to the answer…..
geofftop Says:
June 12th, 2009 at 3:19 amThe copyright laws in the states are insane, I don’t see why they would be liable since its only a link. Why don’t they go after the people hosting the content.